angeles. he's my guest. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> gretchen: i was struck bay quote from your notes. we believe the system of public education is failing in large part because it wasn't designed to succeed. what do you mean in n it's not designed to succeed. many public schools and the public education system in general, is designed to serve the interests of powerful adults, powerful adult special interests at the expense of parents, kids, and the rest of us. and that if we really intend to change things, to make education serve the interests of children not as a political slogan or sound bite, but as a reality, the only way we're going to do that is stop playing on the other side's home turf where lobbyists and political action committees buy influence and transfer raw political power to parents because parents are the only ones who only care about kids. everyone cares about kids. but parents only care about kids. >> gretchen: raw, political power. what a powerful line. i love th